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isn't every one of your tracks a dilla tribute? lol. or is this a refix of one of the tunes he creates.

mind you it's got that "donuts" feel with the build-up throughout 0:20-0:35. it's just that i've heard plenty of your other beats that are more "dilla" than this one ;)

keep on

ThaKidd responds:

Well, yeah. He's definitely my fave producer, but I sampled a few of Dilla's sounds to make this. So this is more of a tribute than anything

I *loved* the elevator theme to it. This one has a lot more melodic interest than your other beats, and for that I enjoy it. It's a great little tune that would be *perfect* for an elevator, but that's not a bad thing as Inhla below me points out. Who says elevator music is bad? more often than not it's pretty awesome and original

anyways ur great

ThaKidd responds:

I'm trying to divert from the same formula so I won't be like 9th Wonder, but I still want the mellow vibe so it's a balance. I'm glad you like it though. I didn't realize it was an elevator style melody, but that's what I love sampling the most so I use it sparingly

This is so deep. Starts off with the clicking noise which sets the precedent for things to come. Your mixing style has always been on the rough eclectic side, such as loud overpowering snares, or hardly any snare at all. In this one, the clicks dominate almost the entire mix, but this makes the swishing synths behind it all the more foreboding, and the feeling of disorientation even more apparent

in other words, gj bro bangin beat

Hi TheGreatKhalem

The beginning sounds very "Owl City ft. Carly Rae Jepsen - Good Time", in a good way. 0:16 The sidechaining arrives. But it's not as hard-hitting as the owl city hit. I know everyone doesn't have those mixing skills, and this is a rough, but it just sounds a bit muddy. If you could somehow produce a high-end that has a quick release, then that's how they do it in mainstream I think. 0:52 Standard snare build-up, but it works.

1:00 Double time snares, and the repetition of the synth. But the snare doesn't come out of the mix enough. 1:17 Wow that turned really quiet all of a sudden. Usually you expect the chorus to be louder than the rest. You might have some majorly huge limiter on it or something because it just went *really* quiet. 1:45 You put DB glitch on it or something? Kinda works, but kinda not. You might need to reroute that to only the synth, and not the drums or something. Not sure how they glitch it to sound somewhat more natural on songs such as this.

2:13 You got that build-up down pat though. 2:17 I like that wind-ish sound to calm it down, coming into the piano solo. You've got the good structure of a mega-hit, it's just the mixing that's letting you down. OK I'm gonna stop here.

No wait I'm not 2:49 has a good build-up. It goes very suddenly loud though. If there could be a way to remedy that? I like your cool blipping synths (not sure how to describe at the point of 03:05. Again, 3:18 is *super* quiet. Probably your kick is too loud and overpowering your limiter it sounds like. If you use FL limiter, do you still have it on? I tend not to use a limiter but maybe I'm weird in that aspect.

Well it seems I've come to the end of your song even though I only intended to stay for half the duration. That must mean it's somewhat good. Thanks for your cool hit that perhaps needs a bit more mixing to make it really good.

TheGreatKhalem responds:

Zigzag...

First off lemme start off by saying I love you, and this is the best feed back I have gotten because you use correct terminology, and know what you're talking about. (seems like it at least.)

Also yeah, this is meant to be really radio friendly, easy to sing on and so forth.

I don't really know what you mean by "produce a high-end that has a quick release" ... I'm pretty new to mixing/mastering and I need to learn.

I believe the chorus is lower since the kick is too loud.

The Glitchy sound sound's better routed to the master since the beat adds to it. Also, it's preference to liking it. Some like it and some don't, however, it's only for like 4 seconds. But, you're right about it fitting in this type of track.

It suddenly goes loud at 2:49? I don't really hear it

Also I giggled at you using the word aspect, I couldn't tell if it was intended as a pun or not.

Lastly, I didn't mix this track at all. D:

Thanks alot good sir, you're a great man.

Hi MadMath

The synth at the beginning has a lot of harsh high-end. The arp that comes in at 00:15 sounds very Kavinsky-like (Nightcall). Oh wow. That lead at 0:35 is very popping. I love your sense of melody. Pretty much everyone's crap at mix-mastering, that's half the battle, so I feel your pain there. 1:05 those strings are pretty potent. It's very wish-washy, you could work on getting some clarity amongst the instruments, but that's always a hard thing. Something about cutting instruments at various EQs to make room for the same instruments to boost at that same EQ. Not that I'm pro at that either.

1:43 Good vibes. Reminds me of nearing the end of "Giorgio by Moroder" on the latest Daft Punk album, Random Access Memories. Where the synths are competing for power. I like the progression in this track, and the addition of orchestral strings at points such as 2:15. The synth at 2:35 is very chiptune-Anamanaguchi, and I like it a lot. Throw in some pitch-bend on that synth and I reckon you'll have a winner. I just wish it came earlier on in the piece.

Plus, the ending isn't shitty at all. It's pretty triumphant.

MadMath responds:

Hey ZigZag, thanks a lot for dropping these few remarks and advice, I didn't got any, for months now, so it's greatly appreciated. I'm happy that some parts of the song reminded you Daft Punk and Kavinsky, because it was precisely what I was aiming for as my friend like it very much.

It's also great to read that you liked the choice of instruments and my melodies (creating melodic lines is actually what I like the most in a song, so your words go straight to my heart).

Thanks for your advices about mastering... Unfortunately I was aware of them, but didn't succeed to make something correct. I used pano, and equalizers to isolate frequencies, low and hi-cut my instruments, but couldn't manage to make a great occupation of the space, and as you rightly say it, to get "some clarity amongst the instruments".

Sorry for the late entrance of the chiptune synth ;)

Thanks again for your times and thoughts ZigZag.

Wow that's so intense! I wish I could make sounds like u. mine are soooo basic!! we should collab sometime........ producer ;)

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0:10 The resampling is great. I can feel the FL Studio burning throug here.

Your melodies are dissonant, your kicks coming through at various times neither known nor expected. This reminded me of the inanity of Groundhog Day; living the same repetitions over again, but in various variations, all different and yet the goal is clear.

1:17 It becomes clear, and returns back to you in the form of a revelation. Not many pause back to ponder like this does, but you have command of the song. You have command of the soundscape. Nothing is out of your reach. You are invinicible, and even near invisible, weaving like the Holy Spirit through the beats.

2:04 Otherworldly bongos. Dat flange. Have you ever thought about how music might be poetry, and if so, have structure? Because structure is important.

Go.

Your style has always been unique. It's got a certain Madlib-esque twinge to it, sidechained dated samples weaving in between your commanding kicks and snares. A touch of wonky dissonance here, a pinch of glorious hip-hop swag there. A defiant lack of hi-hats, replaced with garbled bird-tweets or other similar ear-noises.

Again, your kicks are almost overwhelming, to the point where the edges are not fully seen or realised. That is not always a good thing. I mean, even Madlib learnt to tone it down a bit. The style of yours is visceral and unique, but is it universal enough? If you want to, and I think everyone should, you should reach for this broad universality.

Keep being ThaKidd.

Your style is evolving. Personifying itself into a new beast with different styles, and a new take on life. Your samples aren't as overt anymore, and the flow of your song has changed somewhat. It's new.

The beat changes verisimilarly as you progress. From booming bass to delicate piano riffs, it escalates/descends. At various points it moves. The progression however, can feel light when held.

You could ease up on the booming kick and bass. Even though it's awesome, it doesn't always bring quality. I think quality is what we all strive for here. Quality of each sound coming together in one synthesis.

Overall, decent and thanks.

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